Scientific Forecaster Discussion
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Area forecast discussion
National Weather Service Buffalo New York
617 am EDT Fri Oct 18 2019
leftover lake effect rain showers southeast of the lakes will
wind down this morning as high pressure and drier air begins
building into our region...with dry weather then following for
this afternoon. Fair weather and steadily warming temperatures
will then follow for Saturday through Monday as the high slides
off the East Coast.
Near term /through tonight/...
as of 1015z area radars still show some lingering lake effect
rain showers over and southeast of the eastern portions of lakes
Erie and Ontario. These will gradually wind down from west to east
through the course of this morning as deeper moisture attendant to
the departing coastal low over the Canadian Maritimes gets stripped
away...and as inversion heights steadily lower in response to
surface-based ridging building eastward from the upper Great Lakes.
This said...the combination of lingering low level moisture trapped
under the lowering inversion and continued upsloping will still
maintain fairly widespread lower clouds across our region through
By this afternoon dry weather will prevail across our region
as available moisture becomes too shallow to support any showers...
however the low clouds will remain slower to depart thanks to the
aforementioned low level moisture/ongoing weak upsloping beneath
the lowering/sharpening subsidence inversion. At this point feel
that some partial sunshine will slowly develop from far western
New York eastward to about the western Finger Lakes during the
afternoon as the axis of the surface ridge draws closer...however
further east skies will remain mostly cloudy across the eastern
Finger Lakes and north country. Otherwise...we can expect a cool
day thanks to the lingering cloud cover and cool airmass...which
will only support highs ranging from the mid 40s across the higher
terrain to around 50 across the lake plains.
Tonight ridging will build across our region at all levels...with
the axis of the surface ridge settling directly across New York
state. While associated further drying and subsidence should
generally continue to help break up the lingering low cloud cover
across our region...it's possible that weak upsloping and lake
influences may still help to maintain or even regenerate some areas
of shallow low clouds east and southeast of the lakes...where some
partial cloud cover remains in the forecast to cover this potential.
Otherwise the cool/dry nature of our airmass and light winds should
allow for low temperatures to settle into the lower 30s across the
north country and interior portions of the southern tier...and into
the mid 30s across the remainder of our region away from the immediate
lakeshores. With the caveat that there doesn't actually turn out
to be more clouds than currently forecast...such temperatures should
be cold enough to allow for at least some frost formation. With this
in mind...have elected to hoist a (albeit lower-confidence) frost
advisory for all portions of our area where the growing season has
not yet ended.
Short term /Saturday through Monday night/...
Saturday promises to be a beautiful fall day...as sfc high pressure
and its corresponding mid level ridge axis will push across our
forecast area. Already well established warm advection will allow
850 mb temps to climb to nearly 10 deg c. Unfortunately...we will not
be able to completely mix this airmass to the sfc or else we would
be talking about afternoon highs in the 70s. It will still be quite
pleasant though...as many of the western counties should be able to
touch the 60 degree mark...with mid 50s anticipated east of Lake
Ontario. These temperatures will combine with abundant sunshine and
light winds to make this a perfect day to get to enjoy the
foliage...which by this time will be heading into its final days of
its peak color.
A weakening...negatively tilted mid level trough will approach our
region Saturday night. This feature will be anchored by two robust
shortwaves...one over Lake Superior and the other over the deep
south. Given the lack of forcing between the unphased shortwaves...
Saturday night will remain dry and problem free over our region.
While the Mercury in some sheltered valleys across the western
counties could dip into the 30s...the forecast area will not be as
chilly as the night prior. The Mercury will generally average 5 to
as much as 10 degrees higher with mins mainly in the lower 40s in
the west...and in the low to mid 30s east of Lake Ontario.
The mid level trough will tend to shear out as it crosses our region
on Sunday...as the main energy from the aforementioned shortwaves
will split north and south of our region. There is some uncertainty
though as to the northern extent of the moisture associated with the
southern stream storm system passing across the Carolinas. This may
require raising pops for our southern tier...so stay tuned.
Otherwise the region can anticipate partly sunny skies and pleasant
mid October temperatures with Max temps generally ranging from 60 to
65. These readings will be as much as 10 degrees higher than normal.
As the mid level trough and associated shortwaves push east of our
region Sunday night...a significant amplification of a mid level
ridge will take place over the Great Lakes region. This will come as
a direct result of downstream forcing from a powerful storm system
that will be digging across the nations mid section. As the
associated deepening cutter storm makes its way across the northern
plains to the upper Mississippi Valley on Monday...a strong
southerly flow over the mid western states will advect unseasonably
mild air across the lower Great Lakes region. Subsidence associated
with the sharpening ridge will guarantee dry weather for our region
in the process...with 850 mb temps of at least 10c within a well mixed
environment pushing some areas to near 70 Monday afternoon. Pending
the timing of the cloud cover ahead of the slow moving occlusion...
there is a bust potential with the Max temps...as the Mercury could
climb even higher by several degrees. Mid and even upper 70 degree
readings in some of the valleys is not unfathomable.
There is always a price to pay for such warmth at this time of
year...especially when it comes at the hands of an intensifying
cutter storm. The inevitable strong cold frontal passage...which in
this case will come either late Monday night or Tuesday...
climatologically either Ushers in strong damaging winds or a swath
of moderately heavy rain. In this case...the northern trajectory of
the forecast sub 985mb sfc low may spare US from headline worthy
winds. That leaves a punch of potentially moderate to heavy rain as
the concern. As of the writing of this discussion...the operational
GFS remains one of the faster packages with its timing of the
occlusion and its associated pcpn. For what its Worth...am leaning
more heavily on the slower European model (ecmwf)...which just happens to fall more
in line with the numerical guidance of the blended packages.
Long term /Tuesday through Thursday/...
it will be quite active across our forecast area on Tuesday...as a
mature stacked cyclone lifting north across Lake Superior will push
a strong sfc occlusion across the lower Great Lakes. Being nearly
parallel to the 700 mb flow...the boundary will grudgingly push east
across our region. Pending the development of an expected sfc wave
(triple point) along the occlusion over the mid Atlantic region...the
boundary could even briefly stall. Deep lift provided from a 140kt
h25 jet...100m height falls and impressive 850 mb-70 frontogentic
forcing will support a swath of moderately heavy rain as the
occlusion marches through the region. Rainfall amounts of at least a
half to one inch are anticipated. Have raised pops in most areas
(except ern lake ont region) to categorical and will call it
rain versus showers.
As the parent low tracks due north towards Hudson Bay Tuesday
night...the occlusion will continue to slowly cross central and
eastern New York. Again...the presence of a now well developed wave
in the vcnty of New Jersey/Maryland will keep the forward
progression of the front to a crawl. The steadiest rain...which
should be east of The Finger lakes Tuesday night...could be
significant. Back across the west...the rain should be in the
process of tapering off to scattered showers. This activity will be
lake enhanced somewhat as 850 mb temps are forecast to be around zero c.
On Wednesday...the supporting longwave trough for the impressive
storm system will cross the lower Great Lakes...while sfc based
ridging will nose into our region from the Ohio Valley. This will
further cut back on the shower activity...with lake enhanced showers
found east of Lake Erie and some orographically enhanced showers
found east of Lake Ontario.
Finally for Thursday...fair weather should return in force to the
region. A low amplitude mid level ridge will cross the region while
strong high pressure is forecast to move across the mid Atlantic
region. This should provide fair dry weather over our area with
temps rebounding nicely into the upper 50s to lower 60s.
Aviation /10z Friday through Tuesday/...
through this morning leftover lake effect rain showers over and
southeast of the lakes will diminish from west to east as deeper
moisture attendant to the departing coastal low over the Canadian
Maritimes gets stripped away...and as inversion heights steadily
lower in response to surface-based ridging building eastward from
the upper Great Lakes. This said...the combination of lingering low
level moisture trapped under the lowering inversion and continued
upsloping will still maintain fairly widespread MVFR ceilings across
our region through this morning...along with some areas of IFR
across the higher terrain.
This afternoon and tonight high pressure and drier air will build
eastward and across New York state. This will bring about a gradual
improvement to VFR from west to east...though it's possible that
some areas of leftover MVFR-level clouds could manage to hang on
into the overnight hours. Otherwise...fair dry weather will prevail.
Saturday through Monday...mainly VFR.
Tuesday...rain with areas of MVFR.
high pressure over the upper Great Lakes will build eastward
across the lower Great Lakes today and tonight. As a result the
pressure gradient across our region will become progressively
weaker...which in turn will allow winds and waves to diminish.
This will allow lingering advisory-level conditions on Lake
Ontario to gradually come to an end today.
Looking further ahead to the weekend...the aforementioned high
will slowly drift east into New England on Saturday...then off
the Atlantic coastline on Sunday...and in doing so will bring
a period of fair weather and lighter winds to the lower Great
2-3 inches of rain fell in the Black River basin between late
Wednesday and Thursday and this has resulted in high levels. It
will remain below flood stage, but forecast points are expected
to reach action stage. Boonville and McKeever are expected to
crest early this morning, with Boonville already slightly above
action stage. There is little chance that either of these
points will reach flood stage. Watertown is expected to reach
action stage Saturday, and should crest below flood stage late
Saturday or early Sunday.
New York...frost advisory from midnight tonight to 9 am EDT Saturday for
Marine...Small Craft Advisory until 5 PM EDT this afternoon for loz043-
Small Craft Advisory until 2 PM EDT this afternoon for
Small Craft Advisory until 11 am EDT this morning for