Jelawat hits Okinawa; TS Norman feeds heavy rains in Texas

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 5:55 PM GMT on September 29, 2012

Typhoon Jelawat slammed into Okinawa Saturday morning as a Category 3 storm with 115 mph winds. The small 7-mile diameter eye tracked just west of the island from southwest to northeast, bringing the strongest winds of the right-front quadrant eyewall to much of Okinawa. Kadena Air Base recorded sustained 10-minute average winds of 85 mph at the peak of the storm, with a top wind gust of 115 mph. The Kadena Facebook page has some impressive videos and photos of the damage, which included flipped cars, downed trees, and damage to signs and buildings. Satellite loops and radar loops show that Jelawat has weakened considerably. Wind shear is up to a very high 40 knots, and the storm is over much cooler waters. Jelawat is likely to be a tropical storm at landfall Sunday on the main island of Honshu in Japan.


Figure 1. Radar image of Typhoon Jelawat over Okinawa at 12:30 am local time on September 29, 2012. Image credit: Japan Meteorological Agency.


Video 1. Typhoon Jelawat in Okinawa as filmed by storm chaser James Reynolds.

Nadine still a hurricane
Tenacious Hurricane Nadine has entered its 17th day of life, and continues to mill about a few hundred miles southwest of the Azores Islands. Nadine is not expected to be a threat to any land areas for the next five days. The latest model runs show Nadine becoming tangled up with an upper level low pressure system on Wednesday and Thursday as the storm comes close to the Azores Islands. This should cause Nadine to become an extratropical cyclone again. Nadine is already in fourth place for longest-lived named tropical storm since 1950:

1) Ginger, 1971: 21.25 named storm days
2) Carrie, 1957: 19.5 named storm days
3) Alberto, 2000: 19.25 named storm days
4) Nadine, 2012: 17.0 named storm days

The all-time record is held by the San Ciriaco Hurricane of 1899, which had 28 named storm days.


Figure 2. MODIS satellite image of Hurricane Nadine taken at 9:12 am EDT Saturday, September 29, 2012. At the time, Nadine had top winds of 75 mph. Image credit: Navy Research Lab, Monterey.

Tropical Depression Norman dying; heavy rains continue over Texas
Tropical Depression Norman has been moving slowly up the Gulf of California near the tip of Baja, Mexico since it formed Friday afternoon, but has been torn apart by high wind shear of 20 - 30 knots. The storm will likely be declared dead later today. Moisture from Norman fed an extratropical storm over Texas, and contributed to heavy rains in West Texas that caused flooding and water rescues on Friday. Midland-Odessa, Texas, picked up 4.66” of rain on Friday, making it the wettest September day on record and 3rd wettest day in city history (wettest day in city history: August 24th, 1934, when 5.32” fell.)


Figure 3. Tropical Storm Norman in the Gulf of California at 4:30 pm EDT Friday, September 29, 2012. At the time, Norman had top winds of 40 mph, and was spreading a large stream of moisture northeastward into Mexico and Texas. The remains of Hurricane Miriam are at the left of the image, along with a curious little vortex just north of Miriam's remains. Image credit: NASA/GSFC.


Figure 4. Radar-estimated rainfall in West Texas due to the moisture associated with Tropical Storm Norman. Heavy rains in excess of 4" fell near Midland/Odessa, Big Spring, and San Angelo.


Figure 5. Predicted rainfall totals for the 5-day period ending at 8 am EDT Thursday, October 4, 2012. Moisture from the Eastern Pacific's Tropical Storm Norman will bring heavy rains to much of the South. Image credit: NOAA/Hydrometeorological Prediction Center.

I'll have a new post on Monday.

Jeff Masters


The views of the author are his/her own and do not necessarily represent the position of The Weather Company or its parent, IBM.

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New 1 month outlook has been relased by the CPC, and it really reflects what I said the other day: Troughs and cold shots for many, with heat for the west and Alaska:



6-10 days looks very cold for most:



And then it spreads east:

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Range 248 NMI

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TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW ORLEANS LA
248 PM CDT SUN SEP 30 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN NEW ORLEANS HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
NORTHERN HANCOCK COUNTY IN SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI...
SOUTH CENTRAL PEARL RIVER COUNTY IN SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI...

* UNTIL 315 PM CDT

* AT 244 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE METEOROLOGISTS DETECTED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO NEAR STENNIS
SPACE CENTER...OR 11 MILES SOUTH OF PICAYUNE...MOVING NORTHEAST AT
30 MPH.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

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BUILDING IN AN INTERIOR HALLWAY OR ROOM SUCH AS A CLOSET. USE
BLANKETS OR PILLOWS TO COVER YOUR BODY AND ALWAYS STAY AWAY FROM
WINDOWS.

IF IN MOBILE HOMES OR VEHICLES...EVACUATE THEM AND GET INSIDE A
SUBSTANTIAL SHELTER. IF NO SHELTER IS AVAILABLE...LIE FLAT IN THE
NEAREST DITCH OR OTHER LOW SPOT AND COVER YOUR HEAD WITH YOUR HANDS.

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INFORMATION ON SEVERE WEATHER AND TO RELAY WEATHER REPORTS AND
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A TORNADO WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 800 PM CDT SUNDAY EVENING FOR
SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA AND SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI.

&&

LAT...LON 3051 8938 3033 8963 3036 8966 3041 8969
3041 8968 3045 8968 3046 8970 3061 8954
TIME...MOT...LOC 1948Z 220DEG 24KT 3040 8962

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451. CaicosRetiredSailor
7:50 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
Just so ya know....


Tin Foil Hats Actually Make it Easier for the Government to Track Your Thoughts

SEP 28 2012, 11:38 AM ET
Or so says "physics."


http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/09 /tin-foil-hats-actually-make-it-easier-for-the-gov ernment-to-track-your-thoughts/262998/


: )
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450. Patrap
7:49 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
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449. Patrap
7:49 PM GMT on September 30, 2012


SEL6

URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED
TORNADO WATCH NUMBER 656
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK
135 PM CST SUN SEP 30 2012

THE NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER HAS ISSUED A
TORNADO WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF

SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA
SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI
COASTAL WATERS

EFFECTIVE THIS SUNDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING FROM 135 PM UNTIL 700
PM CST.

TORNADOES...HAIL TO 1 INCH IN DIAMETER...THUNDERSTORM WIND GUSTS
TO 70 MPH...AND DANGEROUS LIGHTNING ARE POSSIBLE IN THESE AREAS.

THE TORNADO WATCH AREA IS APPROXIMATELY ALONG AND 80 STATUTE
MILES EAST AND WEST OF A LINE FROM 50 MILES NORTH NORTHWEST OF
PINE BELT MISSISSIPPI TO 30 MILES WEST SOUTHWEST OF SLIDELL
LOUISIANA. FOR A COMPLETE DEPICTION OF THE WATCH SEE THE
ASSOCIATED WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE (WOUS64 KWNS WOU6).

REMEMBER...A TORNADO WATCH MEANS CONDITIONS ARE FAVORABLE FOR
TORNADOES AND SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IN AND CLOSE TO THE WATCH
AREA. PERSONS IN THESE AREAS SHOULD BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR
THREATENING WEATHER CONDITIONS AND LISTEN FOR LATER STATEMENTS
AND POSSIBLE WARNINGS.

DISCUSSION...STORMS DEVELOPING AHEAD OF COLD FRONT AND EAST OF NEWD
ADVANCING MESOLOW CIRCULATION MAY BECOME CAPABLE OF PRODUCING
ISOLATED TORNADOES AND DAMAGING WIND GUSTS. MLCAPE FROM 1000-1500
J/KG AND 0-1 KM STORM RELATIVE HELICITY FROM 150-200 M2/S2 WILL
SUPPORT THE POTENTIAL FOR ORGANIZED STORMS INCLUDING LOW LEVEL
MESOCYCLONES AND BOWING SEGMENTS AS ACTIVITY CONTINUES THROUGH THE
WARM SECTOR.

AVIATION...TORNADOES AND A FEW SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WITH HAIL
SURFACE AND ALOFT TO 1 INCH. EXTREME TURBULENCE AND SURFACE WIND
GUSTS TO 60 KNOTS. A FEW CUMULONIMBI WITH MAXIMUM TOPS TO 400.
MEAN STORM MOTION VECTOR 22030.


...DIAL
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448. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
7:46 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
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447. washingtonian115
7:45 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
Quoting KEEPEROFTHEGATE:
I hope that's right.I never want to see another 87+ reading again for awhile.
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446. 1900hurricane
7:41 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
Quoting NCHurricane2009:

Yep...Cape Verde storms can occur even this late...but they usually are insignificant to land areas. Last one I can remember this late was Nana 2008...

Usually, but not always...
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445. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
7:40 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
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444. NCHurricane2009
7:36 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
Quoting washingtonian115:
I'm thinking about fall not the next cape verde storm.Oh well out to sea it will go though.

Yep...Cape Verde storms can occur even this late...but they usually are insignificant to land areas. Last one I can remember this late was Nana 2008...
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443. CaribBoy
7:35 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
Fish fish fish only fish! What's the..... lol
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442. washingtonian115
7:30 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
Quoting NCHurricane2009:

Tropical wave enhanced by upper ridge...
I'm thinking about fall not the next cape verde storm.Oh well out to sea it will go though.
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441. NCHurricane2009
7:20 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
Quoting Civicane49:
Long-lived Hurricane Nadine:


All hail...
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440. Maineweatherguy20023
7:19 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
Quoting beell:
Obviously GFS Fantasy land but we'll need to watch this.
;-]

12Z GFS 200mb Winds @ 384 hrs.

click for full image

Snooowww???!!!
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439. Civicane49
7:14 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
Long-lived Hurricane Nadine:

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438. NCHurricane2009
7:10 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
Quoting washingtonian115:
Lol what the hell is that out in the east Atlantic?.

Tropical wave enhanced by upper ridge...
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437. NCHurricane2009
7:08 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
Good afternoon...

Looks like Nadine followed my previous intensity forecast spot-on over the last 24 hours...but I am not so confident in the next 24 (when I predicted weakening to begin) because from what I can see the upper winds are still very favorable.

I also didn't do as good on track...looks like it is going to loop...which means the western Azores could get direct impacts from Nadine in the next 5 days.

My next full blog update will be sometime late tonight...
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436. washingtonian115
7:03 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
Lol what the hell is that out in the east Atlantic?.
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435. 12george1
6:48 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
Quoting Snowfire:
Quoting winter123:
What is the record for furthest-north Atlantic Hurricane? Nadine is at 37N.



Yeah, Nadine is no where near the record furthest north.
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434. 12george1
6:47 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
Quoting allancalderini:
Finally could this be Oscar? we will see.

Maybe. I say we ditch Nadine and move onto another storm.
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433. Tropicsweatherpr
6:47 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
FLOOD ADVISORY
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JUAN PR
236 PM AST SUN SEP 30 2012

PRC013-065-141-302130-
/O.NEW.TJSJ.FA.Y.0363.120930T1836Z-120930T2130Z/
/00000.N.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000 Z.OO/
HATILLO PR-UTUADO PR-ARECIBO PR-
236 PM AST SUN SEP 30 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN SAN JUAN HAS ISSUED AN

* URBAN AND SMALL STREAM FLOOD ADVISORY FOR RAPID RIVER RISES IN
FOR THE FOLLOWING MUNICIPALITIES...

IN PUERTO RICO
HATILLO...UTUADO AND ARECIBO

* UNTIL 530 PM AST

* AT 232 PM AST...DOPPLER WEATHER RADAR INDICATED SHOWERS AND
ISOLATED STRONG THUNDERSTORMS...SOME WITH VERY HEAVY RAIN AFFECTING
THESE MUNICIPALITIES. RADAR ESTIMATES INDICATE THAT 1 TO 2 INCHES OF
RAIN HAVE ALREADY FALLEN AND IT CONTINUED TO RAIN. ADDITIONAL
RAINFALL OF AT LEAST 1 INCH IS EXPECTED. IN ADDITION...STRONG AND
GUSTY WINDS...FREQUENT LIGHTNING AND SMALL HAIL MAY ACCOMPANY THE
MOST INTENSE STORMS.

RUNOFF FROM THIS HEAVY RAINFALL WILL POSE FLOODING PROBLEMS OF SMALL
STREAMS...CREEKS...RIVERS...AND POOR DRAINAGE AND LOW LYING AREAS.

MOST FLOOD DEATHS OCCUR IN AUTOMOBILES. NEVER DRIVE YOUR VEHICLE INTO
AREAS WHERE THE WATER COVERS THE ROADWAY. FLOOD WATERS ARE USUALLY
DEEPER THAN THEY APPEAR. JUST ONE FOOT OF FLOWING WATER IS POWERFUL
ENOUGH TO SWEEP VEHICLES OFF THE ROAD. WHEN ENCOUNTERING FLOODED
ROADS MAKE THE SMART CHOICE...TURN AROUND...DONT DROWN.

&&

LAT...LON 1846 6680 1846 6661 1829 6662 1823 6665
1827 6679

$$

BCS
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432. Chicklit
6:38 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
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431. Civicane49
6:37 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
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430. Chicklit
6:35 PM GMT on September 30, 2012

...TROPICAL WAVES...

TROPICAL WAVE IS MOVING THROUGH THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS ALONG 18N24W TO 10N27W. THE WAVE IS FINALLY GAINING SOME WESTWARD MOTION AT NEAR 10 KT. THE WAVE IS EMBEDDED WITHIN A BROAD AREA OF MOISTURE COVERING THE EASTERN TROPICAL ATLC. MAXIMUM MOISTURE VALUES ARE NOTED NEAR THE WAVE AXIS. THE LOW LEVEL CYCLONIC FLOW AROUND THE WAVE REMAINS LOW AMPLITUDE AND BROAD AS THE WAVE MOVES THROUGH THE MONSOON TROUGH. THIS EXPLAINS THE LARGE AREA OF CONVECTION ASSOCIATED WITH THE WAVE. CURRENTLY...SCATTERED MODERATE/ISOLATED STRONG CONVECTION IS FROM 14N-17N BETWEEN 21W-27W...FROM 7N-9N BETWEEN 28W-35W...AND FROM 11N-15N BETWEEN 27W-35W.
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429. opal92nwf
6:34 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
That area of disturbed weather that has been hanging around Jamaice has been persistent. I wouldn't be suprised if the NHC circled it.
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428. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
6:34 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
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427. LesBonsTemps
6:32 PM GMT on September 30, 2012

Sorry I don't have the source for the following, which was published earlier this year:

According to a recent study, tens of billions of planets
around red dwarfs
are likely capable of containing liquid water,
dramatically increasing the potential to find signs of life somewhere other
than Earth.

Red dwarfs are stars that are fainter, cooler
and less massive than the sun. These stars, which typically also live longer
than Class G stars like the sun, are thought to make up about 80 percent of the
stars in the Milky Way, astronomers have said.



Red dwarfs generally have not been considered viable candidates for
hosting habitable planets
. Since red dwarfs are small and dim, the habitable zone surrounding them %u2014 the region where an
orbiting planet's surface water can remain liquid %u2014 is relatively close to
them.

"The habitable zone would be very, very small. Consequently, the
chances that you would actually find any planet at the right distance from the
sun to be attractive to life was likely to be small, too," said Seth Shostak, a senior astronomer at the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence Institute in Mountain View, Calif. [The Strangest
Alien Planets
]

But the study, based on data from the European Space Agency's HARPS
spectrograph in Chile, used a sample of 102 red dwarfs to estimate that 41
percent of the dim stars might be hiding planets in their habitable zone.

"The number of habitats might increase by a factor of 8 or 10,"
Shostak told SPACE.com.


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426. Chicklit
6:30 PM GMT on September 30, 2012


CARIBBEAN SEA...
THE TROPICAL WAVE PREVIOUSLY IN THE WESTERN CARIBBEAN IS NOW BEING ANALYZED AS A SURFACE TROUGH DUE TO THE LACK OF WESTWARD MOTION FOR THE PAST 24-48 HOURS. THE TROUGH EXTENDS FROM WESTERN CUBA NEAR 23N81W TO 16N84W. THE TROUGH ALSO LIES UNDER AN UPPER LEVEL LOW SPINNING NEAR 17N85W. ACTIVITY NEAR THE SURFACE TROUGH IS LIKELY MORE ASSOCIATED WITH THE UPPER LEVEL TROUGH. SCATTERED SHOWERS/ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS ARE MAINLY E OF THE SURFACE TROUGH FROM 14N-22N BETWEEN 75W-83W...
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425. KEEPEROFTHEGATE (Mod)
6:28 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
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424. beell
6:24 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
Obviously GFS Fantasy land but we'll need to watch this.
;-]

12Z GFS 200mb Winds @ 384 hrs.

click for full image
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423. Tropicsweatherpr
6:18 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JUAN PR
135 PM AST SUN SEP 30 2012

PRC013-027-065-071-081-099-115-131-141-301830-
HATILLO PR-LARES PR-MOCA PR-UTUADO PR-SAN SEBASTIAN PR-ARECIBO PR-
ISABELA PR-CAMUY PR-QUEBRADILLAS PR-
135 PM AST SUN SEP 30 2012

...SIGNIFICANT WEATHER ADVISORY FOR A NEAR SEVERE THUNDERSTORM OVER
CAMUY AND HATILLO...

AT 130 PM AST...DOPPLER WEATHER RADAR INDICATED A NEAR SEVERE
THUNDERSTORM OVER EASTERN CAMUY AND SOUTHERN HATILLO...MOVING
SOUTHEAST AT 5 TO 10 MPH. THIS THUNDERSTORM WILL CONTINUE TO AFFECT
THESE AND NEARBY AREAS FOR THE NEXT 30 TO 60 MINUTES AND WILL BE
ACCOMPANIED BY FREQUENT LIGHTNING...STRONG WIND GUSTS TO 45 MPH...
TORRENTIAL RAINFALL...MINOR URBAN FLOODING AND POSSIBLY SMALL HAIL.
IN ADDITION...OTHER THUNDERSTORMS IN THE AREA...INCLUDING OVER SAN
SEBASTIAN...WERE INTENSIFYING AND COULD PRODUCE SIMILAR CONDITIONS.

INTENSE LIGHTNING IS REPORTED WITH THIS STORM. IF OUTDOORS...STAY
AWAY FROM ISOLATED HIGH OBJECTS SUCH AS TREES. MOVE INDOORS IF
POSSIBLE. WHEN INDOORS...STAY AWAY FROM WINDOWS AND DOORS AND AVOID
USING TELEPHONES UNLESS IT IS AN EMERGENCY. TRY TO UNPLUG UNNECESSARY
ELECTRICAL APPLIANCES BEFORE THE THUNDERSTORM APPROACHES.

$$
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422. Tropicsweatherpr
6:15 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
FLOOD ADVISORY
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JUAN PR
204 PM AST SUN SEP 30 2012

PRC027-081-302000-
/O.NEW.TJSJ.FA.Y.0362.120930T1804Z-120930T2000Z/
/00000.N.ER.000000T0000Z.000000T0000Z.000000T0000 Z.OO/
LARES PR-CAMUY PR-
204 PM AST SUN SEP 30 2012

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN SAN JUAN HAS ISSUED AN

* URBAN AND SMALL STREAM FLOOD ADVISORY FOR RAPID RIVER RISES IN
FOR THE FOLLOWING MUNICIPALITIES...

IN PUERTO RICO
LARES AND CAMUY

* UNTIL 400 PM AST

* AT 203 PM AST...DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED STRONG THUNDERSTORMS WITH
HEAVY RAIN OVER THE ADVISORY AREA. OVER ONE INCH RAIN HAS ALREADY
FALLEN AND ADDITIONAL RAINFALL AMOUNTS OF ONE TO TWO ARE POSSIBLE
THROUGH 400 PM AST. THIS SHOWER ACTIVITY MAY CAUSE URBAN AND SMALL
STREAM FLOODING AS WELL AS RAPID RIVER RISES.

MOST FLOOD DEATHS OCCUR IN AUTOMOBILES. NEVER DRIVE YOUR VEHICLE INTO
AREAS WHERE THE WATER COVERS THE ROADWAY. FLOOD WATERS ARE USUALLY
DEEPER THAN THEY APPEAR. JUST ONE FOOT OF FLOWING WATER IS POWERFUL
ENOUGH TO SWEEP VEHICLES OFF THE ROAD. WHEN ENCOUNTERING FLOODED
ROADS MAKE THE SMART CHOICE...TURN AROUND...DONT DROWN.

&&

LAT...LON 1845 6683 1825 6683 1826 6689 1846 6690

$$

JJA
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421. indianrivguy
6:13 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
That martian meteorite has been discussed for 15 years, it is not "new" news. The end result was inconclusive.

WIKI

There are also small ovoid and tubular structures that might be nanobacteria fossils in carbonate material in crack fills (investigators McKay, Gibson, Thomas-Keprta, Zare).[21] Micropaleontologist Schopf, who described several important terrestrial bacterial assemblages, examined ALH 84001 and opined that the structures are too small to be Earthly bacteria and don't look especially like lifeforms to him. The size of the objects is consistent with Earthly "nanobacteria", but the existence of nanobacteria itself is controversial.[citation needed]

Many studies disputed the validity of the fossils.[22][23] For example, it was found that most of the organic matter in the meteorite was of terrestrial origin.[24] But, a recent study suggests that magnetite in the meteorite could have been produced by Martian microbes. The study, published in the journal of the Geochemical and Meteoritic Society, used more advanced high resolution electron microscopy than was possible in 1996.[12][25]



That scale is in nanometers.
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420. CybrTeddy
6:12 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
Little late in the year for development so far out, but the Euro does show something.

Obvious recuve however.
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419. Tropicsweatherpr
6:05 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
This is the discussion of the wave in East Atlantic that has the 10%.

TROPICAL WAVE IS MOVING THROUGH THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS ALONG
18N24W TO 10N27W. THE WAVE IS FINALLY GAINING SOME WESTWARD
MOTION AT NEAR 10 KT. THE WAVE IS EMBEDDED WITHIN A BROAD AREA
OF MOISTURE COVERING THE EASTERN TROPICAL ATLC. MAXIMUM MOISTURE
VALUES ARE NOTED NEAR THE WAVE AXIS. THE LOW LEVEL CYCLONIC FLOW
AROUND THE WAVE REMAINS LOW AMPLITUDE AND BROAD AS THE WAVE
MOVES THROUGH THE MONSOON TROUGH. THIS EXPLAINS THE LARGE AREA
OF CONVECTION ASSOCIATED WITH THE WAVE. CURRENTLY...SCATTERED
MODERATE/ISOLATED STRONG CONVECTION IS FROM 14N-17N BETWEEN
21W-27W...FROM 7N-9N BETWEEN 28W-35W...AND FROM 11N-15N BETWEEN
27W-35W.
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418. LargoFl
5:46 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
Quoting LargoFl:
6. Fossils on a Mars Meteorite?

About 4 billion years ago, a meteorite slammed into the surface of Mars, sending debris flying out of the planet’s early atmosphere. Allan Hills 84001, a rock that crash-landed on Earth, is believed to be a by-product of that impact. Upon examination of the rock with an electron microscope, scientists discovered in 1996 that there were tiny fossils of microscopic life forms present. They believe these fossils are from Mars, not only because the rock is clearly from Mars but because the size of the cellular life forms found are smaller than any known life on Earth.
........now IF this proves true..throw out the notion WE..are alone in the universe..not that i ever doubted that...billions of planets scattered billions of miles out there..odds of us being alone are nil...just way too far away for us to find out..or Them to find us.
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417. wxchaser97
5:46 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
Quoting Snowfire:
Quoting winter123:
What is the record for furthest-north Atlantic Hurricane? Nadine is at 37N.



Now I don't think Faith was a category 2 hurricane, or even a hurricane, all the way up there.
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416. LargoFl
5:43 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
6. Fossils on a Mars Meteorite?

About 4 billion years ago, a meteorite slammed into the surface of Mars, sending debris flying out of the planet’s early atmosphere. Allan Hills 84001, a rock that crash-landed on Earth, is believed to be a by-product of that impact. Upon examination of the rock with an electron microscope, scientists discovered in 1996 that there were tiny fossils of microscopic life forms present. They believe these fossils are from Mars, not only because the rock is clearly from Mars but because the size of the cellular life forms found are smaller than any known life on Earth.
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415. LargoFl
5:39 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
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414. Snowfire
5:39 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
Quoting winter123:
What is the record for furthest-north Atlantic Hurricane? Nadine is at 37N.


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413. TropicalAnalystwx13
5:38 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
Well this is a new one for the East Atlantic this season, lol.

"ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS APPEAR FAVORABLE FOR GRADUAL DEVELOPMENT OF
THIS SYSTEM DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS."
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412. LargoFl
5:38 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
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411. LargoFl
5:34 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
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410. allancalderini
5:33 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
Quoting interstatelover7165:
ZCZC MIATWOAT ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 PM EDT SUN SEP 30 2012

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER IS ISSUING ADVISORIES ON HURRICANE
NADINE...LOCATED ABOUT 640 MILES WEST OF THE AZORES.

1. A BROAD LOW PRESSURE AREA ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE HAS
FORMED A COUPLE HUNDRED MILES SOUTHWEST OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS.
ALTHOUGH THE ASSOCIATED SHOWER ACTIVITY IS CURRENTLY LIMITED...
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS APPEAR FAVORABLE FOR GRADUAL DEVELOPMENT OF
THIS SYSTEM DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. THIS DISTURBANCE HAS A
LOW CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER BROWN
NNNN
Finally could this be Oscar? we will see.
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409. LargoFl
5:33 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
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408. TropicalAnalystwx13
5:32 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
This is the wave some models were developing a few days. We'll have to watch it.
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407. LargoFl
5:31 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
Yellow 10% by africa............
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406. interstatelover7165
5:30 PM GMT on September 30, 2012
ZCZC MIATWOAT ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
200 PM EDT SUN SEP 30 2012

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER IS ISSUING ADVISORIES ON HURRICANE
NADINE...LOCATED ABOUT 640 MILES WEST OF THE AZORES.

1. A BROAD LOW PRESSURE AREA ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE HAS
FORMED A COUPLE HUNDRED MILES SOUTHWEST OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS.
ALTHOUGH THE ASSOCIATED SHOWER ACTIVITY IS CURRENTLY LIMITED...
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS APPEAR FAVORABLE FOR GRADUAL DEVELOPMENT OF
THIS SYSTEM DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. THIS DISTURBANCE HAS A
LOW CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$
FORECASTER BROWN
NNNN
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405. wxchaser97
5:29 PM GMT on September 30, 2012


1. A BROAD LOW PRESSURE AREA ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE HAS
FORMED A COUPLE HUNDRED MILES SOUTHWEST OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS.
ALTHOUGH THE ASSOCIATED SHOWER ACTIVITY IS CURRENTLY LIMITED...
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS APPEAR FAVORABLE FOR GRADUAL DEVELOPMENT OF
THIS SYSTEM DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. THIS DISTURBANCE HAS A
LOW CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.
Member Since: December 31, 1969 Posts: Comments:

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