Tropical Depression Six Forms in the Gulf of Mexico

By: Dr. Jeff Masters , 9:19 PM GMT on August 25, 2013

The tropical wave that crossed over Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula and entered the Gulf of Mexico's Bay of Campeche over the weekend has rapidly spun up into Tropical Depression Six, according to surface, satellite, and radar data. Satellite loops show that TD 6 is a small storm, and heavy rainfall will be the main threat. Radar images from Alvarado, Mexico show heavy rain bands from TD 6 are already over land, and the 4 - 8 inches of rain TD 6 will bring to the coast is capable of creating flash flooding and dangerous mud slides. The depression has precious little time to develop before moving inland over Mexico near Veracruz early Monday morning, but with low wind shear, warm waters of 30°C, and the topography of the Southern Gulf of Mexico to help it spin up, TD 6 will probably be Tropical Storm Fernand Sunday night. An Air Force hurricane hunter aircraft will investigate the depression Sunday evening.


Figure 1. MODIS satellite image of Tropical Depression Six as it was organizing, taken at 12:30 pm EDT on August 25, 2013. Image credit: NASA.

I'll have a more detailed look at the tropics on Monday. It looks like it might be knuckle-gnawing time for residents of the Atlantic's hurricane alley next week, as an active pattern moves into place for the climatological peak two-week period of the Atlantic hurricane season.

Jeff Masters


The views of the author are his/her own and do not necessarily represent the position of The Weather Company or its parent, IBM.

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1395. 954FtLCane
4:54 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Quoting 1349. YUCATANCHICXULUB:
ok, i hope find some persons to write in spanish here. but i like tihis blog, there are some interesting people.

salud!

Hello there, your english is good enough to write your entries in english. There's nothing to worry about.
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1394. AussieStorm
3:46 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Quoting WunderYakuza:
Add a live post


bakit naman. lol
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1393. ringeaux
3:26 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
At least his spelling is better than Taz ;-)


Quoting OviedoWatcher:


Don't worry about poor English. There are plenty of people on ere that are not native speakers. Also, if there are some things you find difficulty writing in English there are enough people on here that could translate.
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1392. WunderYakuza (Admin)
3:25 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Add a live post
1391. sebastianflorida
3:10 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
My updated forecast for named tropical systems is
18 of which will be 8 Hurricanes, 10 storms that remained Tropical Storms, and 4 of which became Major Hurricanes.

My rationale is that we already had 6 Tropical storms over two weeks out from the peak date, and if you have 6 more storms after the peak three week period, let's say from this Friday to about September 25, then your at 12 storms, no problem. Add in the storms from the peak period, and you end up with 6 more storms, of which at least 5 should be hurricanes and one a Tropical storm is my guess. Then you have 3 more hurricanes out of the 6 storms after the three week peak of the season. I think that the conditions in the Atlantic are better now, and only getting better primed from here on out so more Hurricanes after the climo peak.

Those getting bored with these short lived Tropical Storms, hold on because I estimate out of the next 12 storms, eight will be Hurricanes and half (4) will be Majors. I further anticipate that out of these 10 remaining storms, no less than 5 will put someone in the U.S. in the Cone at day three, and no less than 2 will make landfall between a point just south of the Florida, Georgia line to the Texas, Louisiana line. I expect 2 majors to at least threaten the U.S. within in a 3 day Cone.

The above is only my educated guess, and should not be used for any planning purposes....blah, blah, blah...

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1390. CaribBoy
3:07 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Rightnow. Dark but dry.

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1389. GatorWX
3:02 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Quoting 1363. YUCATANCHICXULUB:
ok Labonbon, thanks, i hope find the people in spanish later, but if the people can read me with my english poor. I will try to write in english. I hope you undestand. Here in Mexico don't exist a blog like this. This blog is very interesting for me. Salud!


Usted podría intentar google translate y se deja traducir para usted. No puede tener resultados perfectos, pero tal vez usted sabe lo suficiente para corregir. Lo usé para traducir del Inglés al Español. Aquí está el enlace. ¿Cómo está mi español?
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1388. daddyjames
3:01 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Quoting 1387. moonlightcowboy:


Thanks. Well, the SFC MAP just updated, so the pressure slowing forward motion is likely out, and it looks like it will continue its southwestward motion in the north-northeastlerly flow towards the continent. Although in an area of weak steering, it now either has to depend on the Itcz continuing to rise to or above 11,12n, or the moisture gyre to give it a bit of a push west/west-northwest, or get busy developing so that it may feel some hint of a Coriolis tug. I'm having my doubts.

Got to run. Y'all hold the fort down. Have a nice day! :)


New blog - move along mlc! And a good day to you.
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1387. moonlightcowboy
3:00 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
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1386. seer2012
2:59 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Quoting 1364. eyesontheweather:
Seems to me I remmeber reading about the man made reef sunken Navy ship "Orinsky" off the coast of Pensacola. It moved significantly from hurricane Ike. Also don't people stay on board the US Alabama during Hurricanes? Seems there would be a lot of markers underwater with indicators of the strength of currents from cyclone events,

According to what I just read a submarine can roll 5 to 10 degrees at 400 feet when a major storm is happening.
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1385. Thrawst
2:57 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
I had my first college class this morning. It was MSC111 which is an introduction to Marine Science. However both professors had stout interests in meteorology and one of the first things the professors said were that the Madden Julian Oscillation (MJO) was moving into our area of the world, enhancing the likelihood of tropical storms and hurricanes in our area.

I just had to smile and think of how much this blog talks about the MJO lol.
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1384. boandjoe
2:56 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Quoting 1354. sunlinepr:
Looks like this year's SAL behaviour affecting the CV season, should move meteorology to new areas of investigation....



agreed
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1383. WunderAlertBot (Admin)
2:55 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
JeffMasters has created a new entry.
1382. GeoffreyWPB
2:55 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
WEATHER RECONNAISSANCE FLIGHTS
CARCAH, NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER, MIAMI, FL.
0945 AM EDT MON 26 AUGUST 2013
SUBJECT: TROPICAL CYCLONE PLAN OF THE DAY (TCPOD)
VALID 27/1100Z TO 28/1100Z AUGUST 2013
TCPOD NUMBER.....13-086

I. ATLANTIC REQUIREMENTS
1. NEGATIVE RECONNAISSANCE REQUIREMENTS.
2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY.....NEGATIVE.
3. REMARKS:
A. ALL REMAINING TASKING ON TS FERNAND CANCELLED BY
NHC AT 26/0030Z.
B. A GLOBAL HAWK DROPWINDSONDE MISSION DEPARTING 27/1100Z
TO OPERATE IN AREA BOUNDED BY 6N - 25N AND 28W - 40W,
FL 550 TO 650. DURATION OF MISSION IS 25.5 HRS.
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1381. GatorWX
2:55 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Quoting 1360. seer2012:
I posted a link to a scientific study of the Saharan dust done in 2006 in the CV islands. The post is 797.(very informative)


Missed that last night. Will read. Thanks. Levi, Pottery and I had a little discussion going prior to your post, which I suppose may have been a response.
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1380. LAbonbon
2:54 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Quoting 1371. Bluestorm5:
Maybe these waves in East Atlantic are missing more favorable environment created by MJO moving into MDR right now. Idk enough about it to confirm this though and I already got chew out by a met on here for saying it two days ago.


Can't help w/ your MJO thought (sorry). But you handled the met well, I think. Some folks on here can get a tad aggressive...

BTW - 2nd week of school, I think? Going well?
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1379. OviedoWatcher
2:53 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Quoting YUCATANCHICXULUB:
ok Labonbon, thanks, i hope find the people in spanish later, but if the people can read me with my english poor. I will try to write in english. I hope you undestand. Here in Mexico don't exist a blog like this. This blog is very interesting for me. Salud!


Don't worry about poor English. There are plenty of people on ere that are not native speakers. Also, if there are some things you find difficulty writing in English there are enough people on here that could translate.
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1378. LAbonbon
2:52 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Quoting 1366. moonlightcowboy:


Gator, it's going to be a close call. Our AOI nearing the islands needs to tighten and get some vertical height to it in order to miss crashing into South America. There's a few other things going for it, albeit small, that may be helpful in its missing land: there's a bubble of high pressure above the equator helping to lift the Itcz in which the AOI is embedded.

Additionally, the moisture gyre is piling up in that area which may ultimately give it a little push west/northwest at some point. It'll be about timing, of course, and whether or not it can get some good lift going, increase vorticity around its coc to feel a bit of a Coriolis tug to gain some latitude.



Another thing, pressures obviously need to drop, but it also has a bit 0f 1012mb sort of "blocking" high pressure to its west - same pressure as the low. That should, I think, help serve to slow the system down a bit too in weaker steering as it approaches the continent. Gonna be real iffy, but it's got a chance, albeit a slight one.



Cowboy, please keep posts like this coming. I learn a lot from you when you post these!
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1377. wunderkidcayman
2:51 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Quoting 1370. HurricaneAndre:
something is spinning in the Caribbean.

there is a tropical wave and a upper trof
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1376. HurricaneAndre
2:50 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
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1375. YUCATANCHICXULUB
2:48 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Jajaja, at least you understand me. This is good for me. nice day. Here in Yucatan is a nice day. I hope my first huracan live her this season.
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1374. CaribBoy
2:47 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Quoting 1347. GatorWX:
AN ATLANTIC OCEAN 1012 MB LOW PRESSURE CENTER IS NEAR 11N51W
MOVING SOUTHWESTWARD 10 TO 15 KNOTS. CONVECTIVE PRECIPITATION...
SCATTERED STRONG FROM 9N TO 12N BETWEEN 50W AND 55W.

??


Gonna crash into SA..... BORING
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1373. GatorWX
2:47 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Quoting 1366. moonlightcowboy:


Gator, it's going to be a close call. Our AOI nearing the islands needs to tighten and get some vertical height to it in order to miss crashing into South America. There's a few other things going for it, albeit small, that may be helpful in its missing land: there's a bubble of high pressure above the equator helping to lift the Itcz in which the AOI is embedded.

Additionally, the moisture gyre is piling up in that area which may ultimately give it a little push west/northwest at some point. It'll be about timing, of course, and whether or not it can get some good lift going, increase vorticity around its coc to feel a bit of a Coriolis tug to gain some latitude.



Another thing, pressures obviously need to drop, but it also has a bit 0f 1012mb sort of "blocking" high pressure to its west - same pressure as the low. That should, I think, help serve to slow the system down a bit too in weaker steering as it approaches the continent. Gonna be real iffy, but it's got a chance, albeit a slight one.



Informative post, thanks MLC

And good morning to you.
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1372. GeoffreyWPB
2:47 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
TROPICAL DEPRESSION FERNAND DISCUSSION NUMBER 5
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL062013
1000 AM CDT MON AUG 26 2013

SATELLITE AND RADAR DATA SHOW THAT FERNAND CONTINUES TO MOVE INLAND
OVER EASTERN MEXICO. ALTHOUGH THE SYSTEM IS STILL PRODUCING A
LARGE AREA OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS OVER THE SOUTHWESTERN GULF
OF MEXICO...WIND OBSERVATIONS INDICATE THAT THE INNER CORE HAS BEEN
DISRUPTED BY THE INTERACTION WITH LAND...AND FERNAND HAS WEAKENED
BELOW TROPICAL STORM STRENGTH. CONTINUED WEAKENING WILL OCCUR AS
THE CYCLONE MOVES FARTHER INLAND...AND THE CYCLONE IS EXPECTED TO
BECOME A REMNANT LOW LATER TODAY AND DISSIPATE IN A DAY OR SO...IF
NOT SOONER. THE INITIAL MOTION ESTIMATE IS 305/8 KT. THE TROPICAL
DEPRESSION IS FORECAST TO MOVE WEST-NORTHWESTWARD TO NORTHWESTWARD
UNTIL DISSIPATION.

HEAVY RAINFALL ASSOCIATED WITH THE CYCLONE WILL SPREAD INLAND OVER
EASTERN AND CENTRAL PORTIONS OF MEXICO DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF
DAYS. THESE RAINS ARE LIKELY TO CAUSE LIFE-THREATENING FLASH
FLOODING AND MUD SLIDES.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 26/1500Z 20.3N 97.7W 30 KT 35 MPH
12H 27/0000Z 20.9N 98.8W 25 KT 30 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
24H 27/1200Z 21.4N 99.9W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
36H 28/0000Z...DISSIPATED

$$
FORECASTER BROWN
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1371. Bluestorm5
2:44 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Maybe these waves in East Atlantic are missing more favorable environment created by MJO moving into MDR right now. Idk enough about it to confirm this though and I already got chew out by a met on here for saying it two days ago.
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1370. HurricaneAndre
2:43 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Quoting 1358. sunlinepr:
something is spinning in the Caribbean.
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1369. GatorWX
2:42 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Quoting 1359. sunlinepr:




Interesting swirl, 700mb level. Wonder if it'll make it to the coast.

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1368. daddyjames
2:42 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Quoting 1363. YUCATANCHICXULUB:
ok Labonbon, thanks, i hope find the people in spanish later, but if the people can read me with my english poor. I will try to write in english. I hope you undestand. Here in Mexico don't exist a blog like this. This blog is very interesting for me. Salud!


We have seen worse. Please, do not worry. You do well.
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1367. wunderkidcayman
2:42 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Good morning guys

Quoting 1361. rmbjoe1954:
There is lots of moisture in the GOM and Western Carib.
Is there anything spinning that can generate into a storm anytime soon?

there is a low just east of the lesser Antilles
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1366. moonlightcowboy
2:39 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Quoting 1347. GatorWX:
AN ATLANTIC OCEAN 1012 MB LOW PRESSURE CENTER IS NEAR 11N51W
MOVING SOUTHWESTWARD 10 TO 15 KNOTS. CONVECTIVE PRECIPITATION...
SCATTERED STRONG FROM 9N TO 12N BETWEEN 50W AND 55W.

??


Gator, it's going to be a close call. Our AOI nearing the islands needs to tighten and get some vertical height to it in order to miss crashing into South America. There's a few other things going for it, albeit small, that may be helpful in its missing land: there's a bubble of high pressure above the equator helping to lift the Itcz in which the AOI is embedded.

Additionally, the moisture gyre is piling up in that area which may ultimately give it a little push west/northwest at some point. It'll be about timing, of course, and whether or not it can get some good lift going, increase vorticity around its coc to feel a bit of a Coriolis tug to gain some latitude.



Another thing, pressures obviously need to drop, but it also has a bit 0f 1012mb sort of "blocking" high pressure to its west - same pressure as the low. That should, I think, help serve to slow the system down a bit too in weaker steering as it approaches the continent. Gonna be real iffy, but it's got a chance, albeit a slight one.

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1365. StormTrackerScott
2:39 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Picked up 4.20" of rain here in Altamonte Springs since last Friday. Really has brought August to near and even above normal rain in many areas around Orlando after a dry start to the month.
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1364. eyesontheweather
2:38 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Seems to me I remmeber reading about the man made reef sunken Navy ship "Orinsky" off the coast of Pensacola. It moved significantly from hurricane Ike. Also don't people stay on board the US Alabama during Hurricanes? Seems there would be a lot of markers underwater with indicators of the strength of currents from cyclone events,
Quoting 1265. K8eCane:


wonder how deep youd have to go to not know it was up there?
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1363. YUCATANCHICXULUB
2:38 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
ok Labonbon, thanks, i hope find the people in spanish later, but if the people can read me with my english poor. I will try to write in english. I hope you undestand. Here in Mexico don't exist a blog like this. This blog is very interesting for me. Salud!
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1362. sunlinepr
2:37 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Quoting 1360. seer2012:
I posted a link to a scientific study of the Saharan dust done in 2006 in the CV islands. The post is 797.(very informative)


Thanks, looking into that post....
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1361. rmbjoe1954
2:36 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
There is lots of moisture in the GOM and Western Carib.
Is there anything spinning that can generate into a storm anytime soon?
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1360. seer2012
2:36 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
I posted a link to a scientific study of the Saharan dust done in 2006 in the CV islands. The post is 797.(very informative)
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1359. sunlinepr
2:34 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
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1358. sunlinepr
2:33 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
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1357. hydrus
2:32 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Quoting 1291. VR46L:
Central Atlantic still looks full of dry air

South Atlantic too. I dont believe I have ever seen Brazil that dry..Hope it is not a sign of things to come. The largest rain forest in the world suddenly going dry would have some serious repercussions.
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1356. LAbonbon
2:32 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Quoting 1349. YUCATANCHICXULUB:
ok, i hope find some persons to write in spanish here. but i like tihis blog, there are some interesting people.

salud!


Welcome, Yucatan - there are some people on the blog that are native Spanish speakers. A few are from Puerto Rico, one from Honduras (he is in school now, but will likely be on later), and there are probably others as well.
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1355. seer2012
2:32 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Quoting 1334. LAsurvivor:


Who posted this silly article? If you are going to compare hurricane seasons, FDR had just as many during his term even though it spanned 13 years. He died the spring after his inauguration. Oh I don't know. Maybe it was because it was his 13th year in office. Maybe it was bad karma. Maybe it's because more ducks flew south for the winter.

Presidents having something to do with the weather? Let's get serious folks.

The President declared a red line that Mother Nature couldn't cross or else. Mother Nature, being fearful of our anointed leader, paid attention and was obedient. hahahaaha
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1354. sunlinepr
2:31 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Looks like this year's SAL behaviour affecting the CV season, should move meteorology to new areas of investigation....

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1353. hydrus
2:28 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Quoting 1351. daddyjames:


I am partial to Birkenstocks myself, but if you have anymore excellent shoes - let us know ;D

G'morning hydrus.
Morning..I am rushing, there for my typing suffers..:)
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1352. hydrus
2:27 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
These storms were historical and as fierce, if not more so than the Hurricane of 38.


The Great September Gale of 1815 (the term hurricane was not yet common in the American vernacular), which hit New York City directly as a Category 3 hurricane, caused extensive damage and created an inlet that separated the Long Island resort towns of the Rockaways and Long Beach into two separate barrier islands.

The 1821 Norfolk and Long Island Hurricane, a Category 4 storm which made four separate landfalls in Virginia, New Jersey, New York, and southern New England. The storm created the highest recorded storm surge in Manhattan of nearly 13 feet and severely impacted the farming regions of Long Island and southern New England.

The 1869 Saxby Gale affected areas in Northern New England, decimating the Maine coastline and the Canadian Outer Banks. It was the last major hurricane to affect New England until the 1938 storm.

The 1893 New York hurricane, a Category 2 storm, directly hit the city itself, causing a great storm surge that pummeled the coastline, completely removing the Long Island resort town of Hog Island.


The links are on this page...Link
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1351. daddyjames
2:26 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Quoting 1348. hydrus:
for anyone interested. This is an excellent shoe called The American Experience, narrated by David McCullough on the the Hurricane of 38. Definitely worth the time. ..Link


I am partial to Birkenstocks myself, but if you have anymore excellent shoes - let us know ;D

G'morning hydrus.
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1350. daddyjames
2:25 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Quoting 1318. txjac:
Morning all ..
You should hear all the grumbling at work. Everyone is so mad about NO rain over the weekend. Everyone, and I mean everyone, planned on rainy days, laying around on the couch, napping and watching TV. Lot's of grumbling today ...however, just checked radar and it appears that we have some showers coming at us now. Somehow its just not the same having rain while you are working compared to rain when you are at home.


LOL - amazing how the high reared its ugly head just in time to block any moisture - coming from either the east or the west.
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1349. YUCATANCHICXULUB
2:24 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
ok, i hope find some persons to write in spanish here. but i like tihis blog, there are some interesting people.

salud!
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1348. hydrus
2:23 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
for anyone interested. This is an excellent show called The American Experience, narrated by David McCullough on the the Hurricane of 38. Definitely worth the time. ..Link
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1347. GatorWX
2:23 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
AN ATLANTIC OCEAN 1012 MB LOW PRESSURE CENTER IS NEAR 11N51W
MOVING SOUTHWESTWARD 10 TO 15 KNOTS. CONVECTIVE PRECIPITATION...
SCATTERED STRONG FROM 9N TO 12N BETWEEN 50W AND 55W.

??
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1346. EricfromJax
2:20 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Quoting 1326. CaneHunter031472:
For those of you who like to dismiss fish storms. Think again they can be deadlier.



LOL
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1345. GeoffreyWPB
2:19 PM GMT on August 26, 2013
Atlantic Tropical Weather Discussion
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